Roddy Frame is 35 and he has become very good at smoking indeed. Throughout our interview
at Warners HQ, he packs away the Silk Cut 100's ("guess that's because you smoke a hundred
a day") with nonchalant ease, as automatically as breathing. Apart from this, he's almost
unnaturally laid back. Nothing seems to worry him unduly. He takes his time to consider
before answering, and frequently looks off around the room toward a promo poster of Cher,
or one of Alanis Morissette, or into a corner with a slow, private smile. I don't think
he's on drugs: he's just relaxed.
But then, it's not been that hard a struggle for Roddy. He was an infant prodigy, the
Mozart of his day, and in his early twenties was being compared, for songwriting skill,
to the mature Elvis Costello. He was signed to Warners at the age of 18, and behind the
name of Aztec Camera turned out a string of albums from which you will remember hits like
the irritatingly catchy "Oblivious" or "Somewhere In My Heart".
Surprisingly, Warners let him go a couple of years back, and a frisson of turbulence
followed; he signed to tiny label, Independiente, and released a lovely album, The
North Star, under his own name, but Independiente managed conspicuously little
promotion. Now, he says, smiling, "I'm finished with Independiente." The chemistry had
gone, and the signings have, too. Roddy's adrift, but he doesn't seem phased.
The reason we're speaking is that Warners Esp are releasing an Aztec Camera Best
Of, taking in everything from very early days (the aching "We Could Send Letters")
through mid-period (the bittersweet "Crying Scene", the Clash-style "Good Morning
Britain") to lost gems like the exotic "Spanish Horses" and a galvanic "Reason for
Living". It's not a bad canon, and might entitle anyone to rest on their laurels a bit.
On the other hand, most of it was recorded when Frame was a relative baby. Is the Best
Of a holding device?
Roddy lights a Silk Cut. "Yeah, because at the moment, I'm just going back to writing
songs again, but as usual, I don't have a grand plan. People always bang on about the craft
of the songwriter, don't they? But what I feel is, it should be a playful thing." He looks
into a corner. "It's a... vague thing to be doing. Is it a proper job?"
You tell me. Apparently you once wanted to be a postman. "Ah, that was when I was
taking my stuff round to record shops. No, I've never had a proper job. Isn't it a
tragedy?"
Frame was born in East Kilbride, moving to London at 18, "so for me, London is home."
He's not from a musical family though. "My father was a great singer He liked Mario Lanza.
On New Year's Eve, everyone would get up and sing, and he'd sing 'Dark Lochnagar'. A big
voice, a massive voice." Preternaturally able with instruments, Frame asked a department
store Santa for an electric guitar and an amp when he was four, and became obsessed with
Bowie soon after. "My whole interest was the ballads | people miss out on the beauty of
those, things like 'The Bewlay Brothers' and 'Quicksand'. I'd lie on my mum's bed when I
was nine with the lights out, listening to Hunky Dory. It was another world."
At about 12, he got a stint in an East Kilbride social club with "a bloke about my dad's
age who'd played double-bass with Lonnie Donegan. His name was Billy Bain, and he had this
big, fat jazz guitar with a Wes Montgomery sound. Fantastic thing for him to do, take the
time for a kid like me."
Partly due to all this, Frame was in a band by the age of 13, the punkish Neutral Blue.
By 15, he was penning ballads, already developing the style that had him compared to
American West Coast bands like Love and The Byrds. His ear is acute. "When I'm in the
studio, I'm amazed at how conservative I am. I can't stand to read how other bands 'just
jammed, and it was edited later'; I'm very structured. I do actually hear things in
records and I think that's just wrong. In fact, last night I was listening to 'Thank You
for the Music' by Abba, and there's one bass note on there... y'know where it goes 'So
I say...' Do you know that bass note? It's a semi-tone flat."
It's as near to outrage as he gets.
After his second LP Knife, Frame took a three-year sabbatical, got married
(he's now divorced) and returned in 1987 with Love, a raved-about album of clever,
seductive soul-pop. One of its singles, "How Men Are", was a clear-eyed piece of gender
politics, a New Man anthem ahead of its time. Frame's glad times seem to have changed |
"Y'know, women have begun to take their rightful place," but certain things perturb him.
"Obviously there was a backlash against strident feminism, and the backlash seemed to be
an ironic, knowing kind of sexism, resurrecting the old Carry On humour.
It was sexism in inverted commas — but the inverted commas seem to have disappeared. And
now you get FHM and Loaded, where if women want to do promo, they have to do
the page three stuff. It's an odd thing. I speak to younger women and they don't seem to
see it. And I think that's maybe," he shrugs, "an indication that I'm an old fogey" No, I
insist, having warmed to him over the past hour; the thing is, the people who read those
magazines are just dumb. "Mebbe. But I'm in two minds. And it is good that things got a bit
sexier; in a way."
This is it with Roddy Frame, what seems like airy other-worldliness is actually
thoughtfulness and self-effacement. For example, he'll say he's dabbling with new work,
though, "For me, it doesn't really stretch as far as the commercial aspect." So what is he
living on? "Money just comes." Before I can kick the table over, he quietly reminds me,
"But I have been making the effort since I was 16."
And being successful. In some ways, he's practically earned retirement, though that's
not on the cards. So where does he get inspiration? "I've come to the conclusion that what
I do is... just bits of other people's records, cobbled together. I try not to do it too
consciously, I try to fool myself it's my idea, y'know?"
But I don't think Rod's struggling for ideas in the least.